Hillbilly cloning on a shoestring budget. This is how I clone. When I get my hands on a video camera I'll post a vid.
Materials
1 rockwool or peat pots
2 sissors and razorblade
3 alcohol
4 tray with dome or solo cups and celophane
5 cloning gel or powder
6 small container 1 oz or small lid to put small amount of gel or powder in
7 paper towels
8 ro water 72-80 degrees
9 cloning solution optional
Step 1 Soak rock wool cubes or peat pots overnite with ro water I personally do not worry about ph but 6.2 is bet from what I read. The ro water I use is ph at 6.5-7 so I leave it at that. You want your medium good and moist but not dripping. Some people will use cloning solution if I have a strain that is hard to clone I add earth juice catalyst 15ml gal ph to 6.2.
Step 2 Clean your work area and wipe off your razor blade and sissors with alcohol.
Step 3 Take a solo cup fill 3/4 with ro water, pick plant to take cuttings from I prefure to take cuttings from the bottom they seem to root quicker but any maybe used. I try to take twice the cuttings as I need just incase and give away the extras. Take the razorblade and cut the branch you have chosen at a 45 degree angle leaving at least 3 sets of leaves. Cut off bottom set of leaves ( you can pinch them off) Drop cut end into cup of water as soon as you can air can get trapped and kill cutting. Repeat.
Step 4 Put small amount of cloning gel or powder in small container so as not to contaminate the rest of the bottle. Take cutting dip in to gel or powder gently tap to knock off excess powder. Stick into medium gently squeeze rock wool or peat to close hole around stem. Take sissors and trim tips of remaining leaves this helps stop vegatative grow so the cuttings energy is saved for root production. Place in tray or solo cup repeat.
Step 5 Place tray with dome into cloning or veg area. Temps should run 72-82 I like 76-80 root zone. Remove dome 2 times aday for 10-20 minutes for fresh air. I only mist my cuttings if the top of the medium fills dry to the touch but still slightly moist (do not let dry out will kill clone)mist lightly, if you mist to often you'll have to wean the clone. The tray should be set to the side if in your veg room so as not to get direct light you only need enuf light to keep the plant healthy but not so where it will grow much saving energy for root production.
Step 6 After about 7 days lift up cubes and check for roots. Roots will start showing in 7-10 days on average some strains and other factors may cause your cutting to take longer. A little yellowing is natural as long as your cutting looks good and not wilting your ok. When first sign of roots you can leave dome off.
Step 7 When roots are 2-4 inches long they are ready to transplant. Light nutes first week hydro for soil water only first week.
Hope this helps
PS I run my lghts 18 on 6 off you can run 24 but i like to let them rest roots grow during lights off but will still grow at 24 some people run 24 to keep temps constant this is important keeping your root zone at a near constant temp lower temps can put the plant in stasis it will look good for a long time but will wilt and die to high of temps can cause stem rot and other troubles. This system is simple and i've got better than a 99% success rate. If you have any question fill free to ask. Please post all other methods in it's own thread. thank you and happy growing.
Thanks Bob thats all good healthy information, looking forward to the video. I should have a few clones going by days end. I got the peat cups at home depot ,$1.96 for 26 used peat as medium How long for light? I have florescents, 6500K , 18 hrs? 24hrs?
If you have interest in other methods I have links to many different styles of cloning. I've read many and lots sound interesting so if there is a style you would like to know about let me know and I'll check and see if I have that info for you.
Your new clone has no root system, therefore it has begun a balancing act between having enough leaf surface to continue photosynthesis (how a plant produces it's food) and having too many leaves to support while having a reduced ability to take up water. I can't perfectly explain how I decide when a clone has too much leaf, that's an instinct that you'll learn as you become more familiar with cloning. But from what I have noticed, when a clone becomes droopy, it’s either from too much light, or the leaves are too big, therefore I will trim some of the leaves. A clone doesn’t need a lot of light, if using fluorescence, a 20w will be fine. How far, anywhere from 6 inches, to a foot will be fine. If using a compact fluorescent, and a higher wattage bulb, than anywhere from 1foot to 2 feet will be fine. If using H.I.D. lights, then around 3 or 4 feet from the bulb will be fine, also depending on the wattage, the higher, the farther. when there's too much leaf and I don't want to get rid of an entire leaf. I just take a couple of leaflets from a large leaf, instead of sacrificing the entire leaf.
new clones looking good temp 85 humidity 84% , no wilting. Need pure 6.2 water now, will get it today. Clone strains are LSD, red cherry berry,blueberry,
If you can drop your temp to 80 and your room humitity 45-85% the higher the humitity the more chances you have for mold or mildew you only need high humitity in you dome.
I will leave the covers off a little more to get humidity down some and maybe move lights up to lower temps they still looking happy and perky
you what a high humitity in your dome not your room and remove dome twice aday for 10-15 minutes for freash air exchange. when you remove dome wipe condensation off if you have no condensation mist lightly
GROW ROOM HUMIDITY: 45-58% during vegetative phase; 40 to 55% during flowering. Excess humidity creates conditions that allow mold and other harmful organisms to flourish, which can destroy your buds.
my way i'e lost 1 clone since early 90's no start up cost no machine to break down this method is easy and proven over 27 yrs so why would i change. Like I said in my earlier post i've got links to many cloning styles will be making a thread for these diff. styles soon.
For cloning the Daisy Cloner can't be beat - takes 99% of the 'hope and pray'work out of it. Cut, powder/dunk in cloning agent, stick in cloner, plug in, put under light. Voila! 7-10 days later, root city.
I checked out the daisy cloner why pay $50+ for something i need to add a fungicide and rooting solution to when my method you use ro water and rooting hormone and my system cost $0. and if you noticed in step 6 it says 7-10 days so whats better
For cloning the Daisy Cloner can't be beat - takes 99% of the 'hope and pray'work out of it. Cut, powder/dunk in cloning agent, stick in cloner, plug in, put under light. Voila! 7-10 days later, root city.
I checked out the daisy cloner why pay $50+ for something i need to add a fungicide and rooting solution to when my method you use ro water and rooting hormone and my system cost $0. and if you noticed in step 6 it says 7-10 days so whats better and the daisy cloner no dome you have to mist and keep higher humity in your clone room to much hastle but thanks for the info
For cloning the Daisy Cloner can't be beat - takes 99% of the 'hope and pray'work out of it. Cut, powder/dunk in cloning agent, stick in cloner, plug in, put under light. Voila! 7-10 days later, root city.
For cloning the Daisy Cloner can't be beat - takes 99% of the 'hope and pray'work out of it. Cut, powder/dunk in cloning agent, stick in cloner, plug in, put under light. Voila! 7-10 days later, root city.
I checked out the daisy cloner why pay $50+ for something i need to add a fungicide and rooting solution to when my method you use ro water and rooting hormone and my system cost $0. and if you noticed in step 6 it says 7-10 days so whats better and the daisy cloner no dome you have to mist and keep higher humity in your clone room to much hastle but thanks for the info
I just add water to start; no rooting compound, no dome. All I'm saying is it works well for me and when I get results every time. Just saying if anyone is having troubles getting clones to start, the daisy cloner is a good method and worth the try. It works for a friend and for me so well, I would be remiss to not mention it. I don't use any dirt anymore though.
I think a lot of if not most of the stuff they sell ya now a days and say you need this or that is commercialism at it's worst.
All I can say is "If one has never experienced the daisy cloner, one cannot say if it works or not." I am not saying nothing else works great 100% success simple no brainer self-starter, but I have not used any method of cloning that comes near the simplicity and ease of the daisy cloner. Yes, it is like 65 bux, and I could duplicate it for about 10 bux (I'll post how to do so) but it does work. I don't think 'bashing it' is really productive. Especially without having experienced how well it works. It isn't the only way, just a way.
http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/how/article/clone-without-motherplant-subcool-may-2011 no high dollar cloning machine i love what he said
"I see people wasting money on all kinds of contraptions only really designed to take your hard earned dollars out of your pocket. Cloning should be a simple, easy process"
-- Edited by tucsonbob on Friday 9th of March 2012 09:29:32 AM
Thank you so much for the help, the three clones I made from the mother plant yesterday are still doing fantastic. I will keep that plant as the mother. I moved the mother to a lower wattage of lights on for 17/7. Thank you so much for reminding me to use it as the mother. I know it will take a little longer to grow the roots but I had to make these three without any gel. They sitting in a little greenhouse in rockwool under the 400 wat light
make sure you set them off to the side you don't want them directly under that much light just enough light to keep them alive and healthy but not to much you need the plant to spend its energy on roots production not trying to grow new leaves yet. i use 2 26 watt cfls at 12" at an angle not right over but right now my clones are above my lights in my veg room they are only getting reflected light but it is till bright this area is covered with panda film my root zone stays at 80 degrees i give them fresh air twice a day for 3-4 days them i give them more close to 3-4 hrs uncovered as long as the leaves dont start drooping they are fine mist if needed. but usually i don't need to do much just make sure to keep your cloning medium moist not wet hope to make and post vid next thursday.
-- Edited by tucsonbob on Friday 9th of March 2012 11:31:01 AM
I have been cloning using these simple cloning methods since mid 80's with 1000s of successful clones the only changes i've made over the years is using a rooting hormone started using them in 87 and making sure my root zone stays at or near 78 degrees. Hope this thread has helped.
Where would you get starter clones. When I come up to Tuscon you had told me about the clones but Im not sure where to get the starter or if I can get starters. I have one plant started but not sure if it would be worth cloning it. I stopped using the miracle grow like you suggested and this ones still dying off. I have 3 coming up from seeds but dont know if you can clone off them or not yet. Im at a lose with all this. Any help would be greatly appricated thxs
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